Bug #97833 for Net-SSLeay: License change possible?

Thu Aug 07 10:33:57 2014 sri [...] cpan.org - Ticket created

Subject:

License change possible?

Hi, Recently there has been talk about securing the CPAN toolchain and adding an OpenSSL binding (not OpenSSL itself) to the Perl core. Sadly the Net::SSLeay license is incompatible with the Perl license. Is there any chance of a license change to GPL and/or Artistic? -- sebastian

Thu Aug 07 16:41:38 2014 mikem [...] airspayce.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #97833] License change possible?
Date:	Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:41:27 +1000
To:	bug-Net-SSLeay [...] rt.cpan.org
From:	Mike McCauley <mikem [...] airspayce.com>

Hello Sebastian, I dont have a problem in principle with a license change, but there are probably legal and ethical issue to understand: The code is based on the SSLeay API, and that may be relevant, maybe not. The code was originally written by Sampo Kellomaki, and I am just the maintainer. I suspect that Sampo should be consulted too. Cheers. On Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:33:58 AM you wrote: Show quoted text

> Thu Aug 07 10:33:57 2014: Request 97833 was acted upon. > Transaction: Ticket created by SRI > Queue: Net-SSLeay > Subject: License change possible? > Broken in: (no value) > Severity: (no value) > Owner: Nobody > Requestors: sri@cpan.org > Status: new > Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=97833 > > > > Hi, > > Recently there has been talk about securing the CPAN toolchain and adding an > OpenSSL binding (not OpenSSL itself) to the Perl core. Sadly the > Net::SSLeay license is incompatible with the Perl license. Is there any > chance of a license change to GPL and/or Artistic? > > -- > sebastian

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Thu Aug 07 16:41:39 2014 The RT System itself - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

Thu Aug 07 17:49:02 2014 sampo [...] iki.fi - Correspondence added

Subject:

Re: License change possible?

(I replied this to MikeM in private mail, but perhaps it belongs better here.) For simplicity I had originally stated OpenSSL license, but I think changing this to Perl Artistic License or Apache2 License would be OK. The connection to OpenSSL is at linkage level so license can be different (this is also mentioned in the COPYRIGHT section of pod). I am opposed to GPL or LGPL. Given the contribution over the years, I would be willing to vouch that everybody would be happy with Artistic or Apache2. If needed, I am willing to put the license change in writing and submit it to Perl managing entity (foundation?), but with IANAL disclamer. Please Cc me (and ask others to Cc me) in any further discussions about changing the license terms. Cheers, --Sampo sampo-netssleay@zxid.org

Thu Aug 07 22:46:29 2014 dagolden [...] cpan.org - Correspondence added

I'm really pleased to hear about this. TLS in core would be a huge win for Perl. Show quoted text

> I am opposed to GPL or LGPL.

I understand that opposition. Nevertheless, would you be amenable to "the term of Perl itself", meaning Artistic *or* GPL? That would be the most natural thing for something bundled with Perl. If not, I think Artistic is going to be a better choice for the Perl core. (Even though I prefer Apache2 for my non-core projects).

Fri Aug 08 17:46:33 2014 mikem [...] airspayce.com - Correspondence added

CC:	sampo [...] iki.fi
Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #97833] License change possible?
Date:	Sat, 09 Aug 2014 07:46:22 +1000
To:	bug-Net-SSLeay [...] rt.cpan.org, sampo-ssleay [...] zxid.org
From:	Mike McCauley <mikem [...] airspayce.com>

Hello David, Thanks for that. Sampo, how do feel about Davids suggestion? I am completely neutral, and defer to your views. Cheers. On Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:46:30 PM you wrote: Show quoted text

> Queue: Net-SSLeay > Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=97833 > > > I'm really pleased to hear about this. TLS in core would be a huge win for > Perl.

> > I am opposed to GPL or LGPL.

> > I understand that opposition. Nevertheless, would you be amenable to "the > term of Perl itself", meaning Artistic *or* GPL? That would be the most > natural thing for something bundled with Perl. > > If not, I think Artistic is going to be a better choice for the Perl core. > (Even though I prefer Apache2 for my non-core projects).

-- Mike McCauley VK4AMM mikem@airspayce.com Airspayce Pty Ltd 9 Bulbul Place Currumbin Waters QLD 4223 Australia http://www.airspayce.com Phone +61 7 5598-7474

Tue Aug 19 02:08:49 2014 mikem [...] airspayce.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #97833] License change possible?
Date:	Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:08:37 +1000
To:	bug-Net-SSLeay [...] rt.cpan.org, sampo-ssleay [...] zxid.org, sampo [...] iki.fi
From:	Mike McCauley <mikem [...] airspayce.com>

Hi, Sampo has agreed to altering the license terms to Perl Artistic license I will make the appropriate changes and push out a new version soon. Cheers. On Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:46:30 PM David Golden via RT wrote: Show quoted text

> Queue: Net-SSLeay > Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=97833 > > > I'm really pleased to hear about this. TLS in core would be a huge win for > Perl.

> > I am opposed to GPL or LGPL.

> > I understand that opposition. Nevertheless, would you be amenable to "the > term of Perl itself", meaning Artistic *or* GPL? That would be the most > natural thing for something bundled with Perl. > > If not, I think Artistic is going to be a better choice for the Perl core. > (Even though I prefer Apache2 for my non-core projects).

-- Mike McCauley VK4AMM mikem@airspayce.com Airspayce Pty Ltd 9 Bulbul Place Currumbin Waters QLD 4223 Australia http://www.airspayce.com Phone +61 7 5598-7474

Wed Aug 20 21:10:15 2014 mikem [...] airspayce.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #97833] License change possible?
Date:	Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:10:04 +1000
To:	bug-Net-SSLeay [...] rt.cpan.org
From:	Mike McCauley <mikem [...] airspayce.com>

Hello, New version 1.66 has now been uploaded to CPAN under Perl Artistic License 2.0 Cheers. On Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:46:30 PM you wrote: Show quoted text

> Queue: Net-SSLeay > Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=97833 > > > I'm really pleased to hear about this. TLS in core would be a huge win for > Perl.

> > I am opposed to GPL or LGPL.

> > I understand that opposition. Nevertheless, would you be amenable to "the > term of Perl itself", meaning Artistic *or* GPL? That would be the most > natural thing for something bundled with Perl. > > If not, I think Artistic is going to be a better choice for the Perl core. > (Even though I prefer Apache2 for my non-core projects).

-- Mike McCauley VK4AMM mikem@airspayce.com Airspayce Pty Ltd 9 Bulbul Place Currumbin Waters QLD 4223 Australia http://www.airspayce.com Phone +61 7 5598-7474

Wed Aug 27 19:33:00 2014 MIKEM [...] cpan.org - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'

Wed Aug 27 19:33:01 2014 MIKEM [...] cpan.org - Taken

Wed Aug 27 19:33:01 2014 MIKEM [...] cpan.org - Fixed in 1.66 added