On 6 November 2011 01:00, Tatsuhiko Miyagawa via RT
<bug-Geography-JapanesePrefectures@rt.cpan.org> wrote:
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> On Fri Nov 04 18:36:11 2011, BKB wrote:
>> On 5 November 2011 01:10, Tatsuhiko Miyagawa via RT
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>> Thanks for your reply, but please examine the following:
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> (lots of example using/not using macrons)
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> Yes, your examples are the prime proofs that Japanese accepts variations.
What are you talking about? There are no variations in my examples,
they are all consistent. If you have an example of variations of use
of names by local government (e.g. a prefectural office or city hall
which uses macrons) that would be interesting, but as it is all the
evidence I gave you is to show that there is no variation, and the
macron is not used.
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> prefectures' own websites try to omit the macrons, while railways try using macrons for
> everything.
Railway signs aren't controlled by the local government. Maybe there
is some consistent set of rules for them but I don't know about it.
Show quoted text>> > That said Tokyo and Kyoto are always exceptional and inconsistent I
>> agree.
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>> I don't think they are exceptional.
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> Well, I meant that in the original code (and Wikipedia redirection rules that I posted) omit
> macrons for Tokyo and Kyoto while keeping them in others like Kochi and Hyogo, which
> made them a special case, or "inconsistent" like you point out in the first place.
Wikipedians put excess macrons on names. E.g., picking an article at random,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagisa_%C5%8Cshima
Notice that even in the same article, half of the instances of
"Oshima" have a macron on the O, and half of them don't. And yet
nowhere, on any film credits or film poster, does the director name
himself with a macron.
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There are consistent rules for geographical names too, set by the
government. I don't wish to seem rude but I don't understand why you
think that Wikipedia is more of an authority about how to write names
in Japan than the Japanese government bodies.
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Well done for your creation. It's a very interesting module, I like
it, and I intend to make maximum use of it.
The bugs which you told me about I have fixed in the module:
https://github.com/benkasminbullock/Geography-JapanesePrefectures
Also "Gunma", which you didn't mention but was coming out as "Gumma".
I will continue to maintain that public version of the module. But if
you don't want to use that it is OK with me, so you can close this
bug.
Thanks for your time, and let us finish this discussion.