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Id: 57108
Status: resolved
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Queue: Perl6-Say

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Owner: jkeenan [...] cpan.org
Requestors: miyagawa [...] gmail.com
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Subject: This module should not be deleted from CPAN
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:22:41 -0700
To: bug-Perl6-Say [...] rt.cpan.org
From: Tatsuhiko Miyagawa <miyagawa [...] gmail.com>
Instead a new version with DEPRECATED warning in the POD doc should be good. -- Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
From: jkeen [...] verizon.net
On Sat May 01 01:22:53 2010, miyagawa@gmail.com wrote: Show quoted text
> Instead a new version with DEPRECATED warning in the POD doc should be
good. Show quoted text
>
Rejected. Both Damian Conway and I believe that Perl6::Say has served its purpose and has reached the end of its CPAN-lifetime. If we had left it on CPAN, it would still have been found by automated testers and, perhaps, have generated test failures which we would have had to resolve. Hence it has been moved to the backcpan.
See previous post.
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #57108] This module should not be deleted from CPAN
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:17:57 -0700
To: bug-Perl6-Say [...] rt.cpan.org
From: Tatsuhiko Miyagawa <miyagawa [...] gmail.com>
As an author of 170+ modules on CPAN I understand the pain of maintaining a module like this, and I completely agree that this module should be avoided when you have 5.10, but that't not my point. There are certain amount of modules and applications depending on this module and the installation of this now suddenly stops working and i DON'T think it's realistic to ask them upgrade their code to remove Perl6::Say and depend on perl 5.10. http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=Perl6%3A%3ASay&hl=en You mentioned BackPAN and that's funny - so I took that basically you're suggesting that using this module knowing it's deprecated is fine - does that mean the *users* of those modules depending on Perl6::Say should manually add BackPAN to their index sources? Well, or you're expecting them to annoy the developers to switch to 5.10's say *individually* but as I said that's not gonna work - at least that takes more time and causes more confusions. Not supporting module and ignoring test failures and RT reports (not like this! :) are totally fine, but removing it from CPAN is not the right answer. So, why not a) adding a big fat warning in the POD saying it's DEPRECATED, b) making it skip all the tests in t/ so you won't be annoyed by automated testers anymore. As a final suggestion, I'm happy to take over this module with those changes. -- Tatsuhiko Miyagawa, the author of a new CPAN installer cpanm, getting reports about it every day asking why it can't install Perl6::Say and modules depending on it.
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #57108] This module should not be deleted from CPAN
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:38:35 +1000
To: bug-Perl6-Say [...] rt.cpan.org
From: Damian Conway <damian [...] conway.org>
If Miyagawa wishes to continue supporting Perl6::Say, then I am grateful for the offer and happy to let him do so. In anticipation of the two of you agreeing to it, I have added MIYAGAWA as co-maintainer. All the best, Damian
From: bitcard [...] larochelle.name
Just wanted to second the call for Perl6::Say to go back on CPAN. Our production machines are running the previous Ubuntu LTS 8.04 which only does Perl 5.8. The new Ubuntu LTS version (10.04) has only been out for a couple of months. An infrastructure upgrade is a big under taking so we will be stuck with Ubuntu 8.04 and Perl 5.8 for a while. On Sat May 01 21:39:06 2010, damian@conway.org wrote: Show quoted text
> If Miyagawa wishes to continue supporting Perl6::Say, > then I am grateful for the offer and happy to let him do so. > > In anticipation of the two of you agreeing to it, > I have added MIYAGAWA as co-maintainer. > > All the best, > > Damian
Can I have maint for Perl6::Say? I than remove other maintainers except MIYAGAWA and you will not receive even rt.cpan.org bug reports. I will create a repository on github, so anyone will be able to patch it easily. -- Alexandr Ciornii, http://chorny.net
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #57108] This module should not be deleted from CPAN
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:49:29 +1000
To: bug-Perl6-Say [...] rt.cpan.org
From: Damian Conway <damian [...] conway.org>
Hi Alexandr, Thanks for volunteering to take over Perl6::Say. I have now made you a co-maintainer. All the best, Damian