Bug #46225 for AnyEvent: Hashbangs (/opt -> /usr/bin)

Tue May 19 14:45:04 2009 frequency [...] cpan.org - Ticket created

Subject:

Hashbangs (/opt -> /usr/bin)

Hi there: Thanks for a great module! Currently, most scripts in eg/ have: #!/opt/bin/perl On the shebang line. However, on Debian (and I think most common Linux installations these days), Perl is generally installed as: #!/usr/bin/perl As a result, we have a patch in Debian for this issue. If it would be beneficial to other users, I would ask that you replace the /opt dependency with /usr. This only effects the usability of the eg/ scripts, which are probably executed most often using 'perl script.pl' anyway, making this mostly irrelevant. Still, if it's not too big of a change and if there are no real objections, I'd like to see this fixed in the future. I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers, Jonathan

Tue May 19 14:46:48 2009 frequency [...] cpan.org - Cc pkg-perl-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org added

Wed May 20 10:53:55 2009 schmorp [...] schmorp.de - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #46225] Hashbangs (/opt -> /usr/bin)
Date:	Wed, 20 May 2009 16:53:29 +0200
To:	Jonathan Yu via RT <bug-AnyEvent [...] rt.cpan.org>
From:	Marc Lehmann <schmorp [...] schmorp.de>

Hi! You sent a possible bug report on or via rt.cpan.org. Please read this mail carefully if you want to be heard. Most likely, your report will be ignored. Please close the ticket again and sent it to the official contact address for the module in question (or send it to rt.cpan.org@schmorp.de). Why is this necessary? rt.cpan.org has many deficiencies which makes it tedious and hard to use, increasing the workload on the people who provide all the perl modules you probably appreciate (and that is really to be avoided - module authors should be able to invest all their time into improving their modules and not fighting with rt.cpan.org's bugs). Still, for some people, rt.cpan.org is useful to have, and some people even like it and really want to use it. That is fine, too. Unfortunately, the designers of rt.cpan.org didn't make their "service" optional - you can neither opt-in nor opt-out of rt.cpan.org as a module author. Just like a spammer, rt.cpan.org forces its "service" (whether wanted or unwanted) on everybody. Just like a spammer, they don't care for the people they actively hurt. Just like a spammer, they don't don't care to fix these issues and make their "service" ethically acceptable. You cannot even configure it to redirect tickers to somewhere else. Unfortunately, ignoring rt.cpan.org is not an option either: for people reporting possible bugs there is no indication that their report will be ignored, and for module authors it means they miss possibly vital bug reports (and of course it's a great impression if rt.cpan.org has lots of bug reports that are unanswered, making a module unmaintained when in fact the opposite might be true). This is why it is important that you delete your ticket again. I am sorry that this wasted a bit of your time, but please understand that I am just as much a victim as you are - the problem is the unethical stance of the rt.cpan.org providers who force their "service" on everybody. Please redirect your bug report as stated in the beginning of this mail, and please consider petitioning the rt.cpan.org providers to stop their unethical behaviour and allow opt-in, opt-out, or some redirect option. Thanks a lot, Marc Lehmann <rt.cpan.org@schmorp.de>

Wed May 20 10:53:56 2009 The RT System itself - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

Thu May 21 11:33:41 2009 frequency [...] cpan.org - Correspondence added

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:03:49PM -0400, Jonathan Yu <jonathan.i.yu@gmail.com> wrote: Show quoted text

> Per your request I am forwarding RT#46225 here, and once acknowledged > will close the bug in the CPAN Request Tracker.

Sorry, I cannot acknowledge any bug here, as with your previous mail - is this some kind of harassment? rt.cpan.org ctreates enough work for me already, and trying to pressure me like "I will only remove it once you acknowledge this bug" is not really nice. Show quoted text

> On the shebang line. However, on Debian (and I think most common Linux > installations these days), Perl is generally installed as:

If debian uses non-standard paths for perl, it's obviously debians problem to patch such things. Note that eg/ scripts are examples and not being installed, so when you install them, it's up to you to fix any paths - for normal binaries this is already done. Show quoted text

> As a result, we have a patch in Debian for this issue. If it would be > beneficial to other users, I would ask that you replace the /opt > dependency with /usr.

And that would screw all users using /opt - I don't see why those should suffer just for debian. -- As a result, the bug is closed. On Tue May 19 14:45:04 2009, FREQUENCY wrote: Show quoted text

> Hi there: > > Thanks for a great module! > > Currently, most scripts in eg/ have: > > #!/opt/bin/perl > > On the shebang line. However, on Debian (and I think most common Linux > installations these days), Perl is generally installed as: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > As a result, we have a patch in Debian for this issue. If it would be > beneficial to other users, I would ask that you replace the /opt > dependency with /usr. > > This only effects the usability of the eg/ scripts, which are probably > executed most often using 'perl script.pl' anyway, making this mostly > irrelevant. Still, if it's not too big of a change and if there are no > real objections, I'd like to see this fixed in the future. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Cheers, > > Jonathan

Thu May 21 11:33:43 2009 frequency [...] cpan.org - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'