Bug #17875 for File-HomeDir: [RFE] Desktop support

Mon Feb 27 08:33:23 2006 Guest - Ticket created

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[RFE] Desktop support

Why not add a desktop method to return the desktop? It's not just a Windows-specific attribute. OS/X has it. So do Linux desktops: there is some kind of Unix/Linux desktop standard now, though I don't have the references.

Mon Feb 27 08:41:49 2006 adam [...] phase-n.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #17875] [RFE] Desktop support
Date:	Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:38:34 +1100
To:	bug-File-HomeDir [...] rt.cpan.org
From:	Adam Kennedy <adam [...] phase-n.com>

Sounds great. I'll take a patch. The reason it isn't in there yet it I'm not sure how to handle the Linux desktop. Answer that problem, and it's in. Adam K Guest via RT wrote: Show quoted text

> Mon Feb 27 08:33:23 2006: Request 17875 was acted upon. > Transaction: Ticket created by guest > Queue: File-HomeDir > Subject: [RFE] Desktop support > Owner: Nobody > Requestors: RRWO@cpan.org > Status: new > Ticket <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=17875 > > > > Why not add a desktop method to return the desktop? > > It's not just a Windows-specific attribute. OS/X has it. So do Linux > desktops: there is some kind of Unix/Linux desktop standard now, though > I don't have the references. > >

Mon Feb 27 08:41:50 2006 The RT System itself - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

Mon Feb 27 09:51:35 2006 Guest - Correspondence added

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rrwo [...] cpan.org

On Mon Feb 27 08:41:49 2006, adam@phase-n.com wrote: Show quoted text

> Sounds great. I'll take a patch. > > The reason it isn't in there yet it I'm not sure how to handle the > Linux desktop. > > Answer that problem, and it's in.

Desktop "Standards" are at http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards There seems to be a ~/Desktop folder used by Gnome and KDE. I'm not sure what part of the spec says how to determine that folder.

Mon Feb 27 09:59:54 2006 Guest - Correspondence added

On Mon Feb 27 09:51:35 2006, guest wrote: Show quoted text

> On Mon Feb 27 08:41:49 2006, adam@phase-n.com wrote:

> > Sounds great. I'll take a patch. > > > > The reason it isn't in there yet it I'm not sure how to handle the > > Linux desktop. > > > > Answer that problem, and it's in.

>

File::BaseDir could also be of help. There's a potential circular dependency. It should probably make use of File::HomeDir (though it doesn't).

Mon Feb 27 20:21:57 2006 adam [...] phase-n.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #17875] [RFE] Desktop support
Date:	Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:18:46 +1100
To:	bug-File-HomeDir [...] rt.cpan.org
From:	Adam Kennedy <adam [...] phase-n.com>

Circular dependencies can be resolved by merging the two modules into the one distribution, if needed. Adam K Guest via RT wrote: Show quoted text

> <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=17875 > > > On Mon Feb 27 09:51:35 2006, guest wrote:

>> On Mon Feb 27 08:41:49 2006, adam@phase-n.com wrote:

>>> Sounds great. I'll take a patch. >>> >>> The reason it isn't in there yet it I'm not sure how to handle the >>> Linux desktop. >>> >>> Answer that problem, and it's in.

> > File::BaseDir could also be of help. > > There's a potential circular dependency. It should probably make use of > File::HomeDir (though it doesn't).

Thu Aug 03 09:48:01 2006 LGODDARD [...] cpan.org - Correspondence added

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LGODDARD [...] cpan.org

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> Desktop "Standards" are at http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards > > There seems to be a ~/Desktop folder used by Gnome and KDE. I'm not

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> what part of the spec says how to determine that folder.

FWIW I am told that this code works: I use it without complaints: # Desktops for dir select: thanks to Slaven Rezic who also suggested SHGetSpecialFolderLocation for Win32. if ($^O =~ /win/i and -d "$ENV{USERPROFILE}/Desktop"){ # use OLE no longer needed; $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{USERPROFILE}/Desktop" } elsif (-d "$ENV{HOME}/Desktop"){ $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{HOME}/Desktop"; } elsif (-d "$ENV{HOME}/.gnome-desktop"){ $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{HOME}/.gnome-desktop"; }

Thu Aug 03 21:22:21 2006 adam [...] phase-n.com - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [rt.cpan.org #17875] [RFE] Desktop support
Date:	Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:22:41 +0800
To:	bug-File-HomeDir [...] rt.cpan.org
From:	Adam Kennedy <adam [...] phase-n.com>

Are there differences in this between different languages? Currently for at least my_documents and my_music, the directories will be named differently on different language versions of both Windows and Mac. The Linux implementation of music thus currently can't actually be done. Adam K lee via RT wrote: Show quoted text

> Queue: File-HomeDir > Ticket <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=17875 > >

>> Desktop "Standards" are at http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards >> >> There seems to be a ~/Desktop folder used by Gnome and KDE. I'm not

> sure

>> what part of the spec says how to determine that folder.

> > FWIW I am told that this code works: I use it without complaints: > > # Desktops for dir select: thanks to Slaven Rezic who also > suggested SHGetSpecialFolderLocation for Win32. > if ($^O =~ /win/i and -d "$ENV{USERPROFILE}/Desktop"){ > # use OLE no longer needed; > $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{USERPROFILE}/Desktop" > } elsif (-d "$ENV{HOME}/Desktop"){ > $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{HOME}/Desktop"; > } elsif (-d "$ENV{HOME}/.gnome-desktop"){ > $self->{desktop_dir} = "$ENV{HOME}/.gnome-desktop"; > }

Mon Oct 22 04:58:39 2007 pardus [...] cpan.org - Correspondence added

On Mon Feb 27 09:59:54 2006, guest wrote: Show quoted text

> File::BaseDir could also be of help. > > There's a potential circular dependency. It should probably make use

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> File::HomeDir (though it doesn't).

First of all the freedesktop specification does _not_ specify a Desktop directory, BaseDir is about configuration and application data. At some point there was dicussion about a seperate spec for "user directories" (e.g. Desktop MyMusic etc.) but I don't think a draft was actually commited - check the xdg mailing list archives if you're interested. Secondly I don't think BaseDir should depend on HomeDir. The spec explicitly states that we use $HOME as home dir. I'm considering to check a couple more environment variables for win32, but this should be considered an extension to the spec. Full dependency on HomeDir does not seem necessary to me. Of course one could set $HOME using HomeDir if they want to. Regards, Jaap <pardus@cpan.org>